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#16 Posted at 2011-07-28 18:22        
     
Yea, A good chunk of PJ training im not allowed to talk about, along with 90% of missions which if u asked anyone about they would say either they dont know what your talking about or "Never happened and i wasnt their". Ive been part of a tier 1 PJ Unit for about a year and we arent allowed to talk about anything basically.

I suggest being in for a little while before trying out to make sure u can handle it. Being in a more tactical enviroment will help such as being Military Police which is what I use to do. PJ training takes around 2 years but its very fast paced and fun.

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#17 Posted at 2011-07-28 23:05        
     
Yeah, I'm not sure if that kind if secrecy is what I want. Would you know if the US Army Rangers is the same?


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#18 Posted at 2011-07-28 23:31        
     
Rangers are not really Special Operations kinda like Force Recon. Rangers are more for heavy infantry power. Or because it does cost a lot to send Special Ops in on a mission, sometimes its just better for the Rangers so they are not very secretive but they do play a very important role.

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I dont mind the secretive part because were not looking for recognition for anything so its better left to just do your job and have the satisfaction of doing it well.

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#19 Posted at 2011-07-29 00:43        
     
# heavylead : Rangers are not really Special Operations kinda like Force Recon. Rangers are more for heavy infantry power. Or because it does cost a lot to send Special Ops in on a mission, sometimes its just better for the Rangers so they are not very secretive but they do play a very important role.

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I dont mind the secretive part because were not looking for recognition for anything so its better left to just do your job and have the satisfaction of doing it well.
The only thing that I would dislike about secrecy would be that I couldn't talk to people like my family and friends about missions and things like that. Also I think the Ranger School training isn't as intense or as much of a bitch as pararescue training is.


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#20 Posted at 2011-07-29 20:35        
     
Ranger training is not even close to PJ training, Ranger training is tough but not nearly as bad.

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#21 Posted at 2011-07-29 20:52        
     
Yeah, that's why I think I'll go with the ranger training lol.


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#22 Posted at 2011-07-29 21:44        
     
What about life style... Like isn't the USAF life style alot better than the US Army's life style? I mean like the way of living, and quality of living over all


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#23 Posted at 2011-07-30 00:28        
     
What do you mean by life style? Like how well you live in Afghanistan (or wherever you are deployed)?


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#24 Posted at 2011-07-30 00:29        
     
yes but both, here and over seas


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#25 Posted at 2011-07-30 01:21        
     
I don't think I would mind.


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#26 Posted at 2011-07-30 16:55        
     
You get a nice place to live in the States and overseas you never know. I was stuck at a FOB once with no power, running water and we had to burn are own shit so...

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#27 Posted at 2011-07-30 18:20        
     
I guess there are pros and cons of every job.


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#28 Posted at 2011-07-31 01:20        
     
Yea, its not the living the conditions and the pay that make the job so great its what were all about, and let me tell, their is nothing better and i wouldnt change any of my choices

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#29 Posted at 2011-07-31 04:11        
     
Yeah. Do you know if you have to be in the military already to join the rangers? Like do you have to have been deployed already in a non-special forces unit?


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#30 Posted at 2011-07-31 15:04        
     
no you can come in with a ranger contract. what happens is you join the army, go to basic and AIT ( in this case infantry OSUT) and then you go to ranger school. u pass u go to an active bat, u fail u stay regular infantry.

you can do the same thing for special forces, come in as an xray (basic, osut, airborne, sf prep course called SOPC then selection and then you go down the SF pipeline) will take about 2 years