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#1 Posted at 2012-04-28 11:04        
     
Hi all,
I'm very new to Arma, having wanted to find a detailed, cooperative and tactical game for a very long time. I'm currently upgrading my PC to run the games, but wanted to ask a quick question about which format would be the best to purchase.

There appear to be two options for the new Arma 2 player: Download via Steam or buy the PC DVD.

I would like to have Combined Operations as well as PMC & the British addon. The PC DVD for Combined Operations is very difficult to buy on PC DVD here in the UK now, but Arma X is available both digitally and physically.

    What are the advantages/disadvantages of buying via Steam over buying the PC DVD?
    If I purchase Arma X, will it install automatically as Combined Operations?

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#2 Posted at 2012-04-28 12:04        
     
Hey!
First, if you buy it boxed in a shop, youll always have the CD and Key at safe place. If you buy the steam version and your account gets hacked...your f***ed. Also Steam has a more difficult way to install mods. Thats all I can say, have fun with ArmA here!

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#3 Posted at 2012-04-28 12:10        
     
Welcome to Armaholic :-)

# j0hnanderson : What are the advantages/disadvantages of buying via Steam over buying the PC DVD?

Well, there are no real advantages except you do not have to bother with DVD's anymore.
However, and this is a personal opinion, Steam is a pain. Its giving a lot of issues for many people. Not cause Steam is bad but because it needs to be used a bit differently than how you normally start/edit your games and not being prepared to read and search for additional info will cause a lot of confusion.

If I may be so free I advice you to buy from the BI studio.com shop. This does not require you to install any additional software for just being able to run the game (unlike Steam!). You just download all the game files from there and install it as if you were installing from a DVD.
Also, by buying from Sprocket you are supporting the developer since Sprocket is the dev's shop so any money spend in their shop directly goes into their game development.

You can find the shop here:
- store.bistudio.com

If I purchase Arma X, will it install automatically as Combined Operations?

First you install Arma 2, than you install OA and upon install it will detect your Arma 2 installation folder and ask you if you want to install there. Just do not change anything and it will install as CO :-)

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#4 Posted at 2012-04-28 12:16        
     
Cheers for the rapid responses and the welcome.

I was very hesitant to install Steam, as I've read some horror stories, but a lot of threads here seem to have the Steam install as a default. Thanks for the above advice, it's really helped. I totally forgot about BI's Sprocket option and I'll have a look at that.

John

[edit]Oh, look what I just found on the BI webstore...
"To integrate Arma 2 and Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead into Arma 2: Combined Operations, please install Arma 2 first, and then install Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead into the Arma 2 directory."
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#5 Posted at 2012-04-28 12:33        
     
I have it on steam and uses ArmA II Launcher to launch mods wich is easy to use :)
But ye, steam can be a pain sometimes


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#6 Posted at 2012-04-28 12:45        
     
At the moment it looks like I'll go with either the BI Store (Arma X d/l at £40.76) or Amazon (Arma X PC DVD at £35.39) and Six Updater. Ideally, I'd like to have Arma CO, British Armed Forces and PMC with the ACE, ACRE and DayZ mods. I've made the decision to avoid Steam.

Which other mods would the Arma Posse see as 'necessary', 'nice but not essential' and 'don't bother'?

To put that into context, I'd like to hook up with a group that is predominantly Co-op rather than PvP, and that plays as a 'realistic' military unit. I know each particular group has its own requirements, and I would include those in the 'necessary' list once I've looked some more into the groups that are out there, and that fit with the type of play I'd like to experience and be a part of.

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#7 Posted at 2012-04-28 14:55        
     
First things first...why is this still in the Troubleshooting Section?
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Good choice to pass on Steam, it adds nothing but potential problems -problems that are not needed.

You post that you are very new to the series, and if true, I'd recommend holding off on SU, ACE & ACRE until you are on stable ground with the stock program. Then slowly move on to any mods that interest you -one at a time.

Using SU is handy once you eventually hook up with a crew/clan and stick with them but if you also intend to hit public servers be aware -and make allowances for- version mis-matches that are sure to follow...not every admin is willing to update their server with every revision to ACE, etc.

ACE & ACRE are both excellent addons -and ones that you should definately look into- but only after you've got a handle on ArmA II to begin with.


There are too many cases out there of new players who dive too deep at first and get frustrated with some of the problems/conflicts that go along with adding multiple 3rd-party apps/mods to the main game and give up on the entire series as a whole.

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#8 Posted at 2012-04-28 14:58        
     
In the "Addons and Mods: Complete" forum sections you can find a sticky discussing which addons you should use.

Also, you use what you like. What others like does not mean you like that too. So, just browse the download section, download what sounds and/or looks interesting, install it and have a go with it.
Units/communities all use (or allow) different addons. There is no default set. So, find yourself a community which suits your play style and download all addons they require/allow.
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# NoQuarter : First things first...why is this still in the Troubleshooting Section?

Good call, I overlooked it :-)
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#9 Posted at 2012-04-28 15:06        
     
# NoQuarter : First things first...why is this still in the Troubleshooting Section?

Seemed the right place, but I'm more than happy for it to be moved to a more appropriate forum. Done while posting this thread. Thanks Foxhound.

# NoQuarter : Good choice to pass on Steam, it adds nothing but potential problems -problems that are not needed.

Yep. Read too many horror stories. It does seem to be the predominant source for the game on this site's help and information threads, so I just wanted to make sure.

# NoQuarter : You post that you are very new to the series, and if true, I'd recommend holding off on SU, ACE & ACRE until you are on stable ground with the stock program. Then slowly move on to any mods that interest you -one at a time.

Using SU is handy once you eventually hook up with a crew/clan and stick with them but if you also intend to hit public servers be aware -and make allowances for- version mis-matches that are sure to follow...not every admin is willing to update their server with every revision to ACE, etc.

ACE & ACRE are both excellent addons -and ones that you should definately look into- but only after you've got a handle on ArmA II to begin with.

Far too sensible. ;)

# NoQuarter :There are too many cases out there of new players who dive too deep at first and get frustrated with some of the problems/conflicts that go along with adding multiple 3rd-party apps/mods to the main game and give up on the entire series as a whole.
Good luck and have fun.

Cheers for the advice, all taken on board.

# Foxhound : In the "Addons and Mods: Complete" forum sections you can find a sticky discussing which addons you should use.

Also, you use what you like. What others like does not mean you like that too. So, just browse the download section, download what sounds and/or looks interesting, install it and have a go with it.
Units/communities all use (or allow) different addons. There is no default set. So, find yourself a community which suits your play style and download all addons they require/allow.
To find communities fitting your style browse through this section:
- ArmA Community Advertising

Going to take it slow as NoQuarter suggests, and thanks for the link. There are some there I hadn't managed to find.

John

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