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#1 Posted at 2012-08-12 01:54        
     
Hello all, I'm a greenhorn to both the series and forums. I have been reading several threads regarding which game you should play first, vanilla or modded etc... Made my decision I'm going to play vanilla first(finishing all training before starting the real game). However, I still have a few questions. I read somewhere you should combine A2 and OA:

1) what's the benefit of that?

2) I purchased "combined operations" from amazon digital, installed A2, started training, then downloaded and installed OA. Are mine already combined?

Also, what's the difference between scenario and campaign, if there is one?

Thanks for any replies and I look forward to discussing this incredible game on the forums!

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#2 Posted at 2012-08-12 02:09        
     
Hey there, welcome! *BYE*
Take a look in ArmA 2's directory, if there is a folder called "expansion" in it, they should be combined.
Also, if you're not sure, start the game from OA shortcut or .exe file and take a look in the editor, if you can find USMC faction and USA faction togheter, it0s definitely Combined Ops.

Also, Campaign is made of different story driven missions, scenario has got instead single missions, every one different and not linked to the others.

P.S. Good you're going with vanilla first. The game must be well known before adding any mod in my opinion, especially the big total conversion ones


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#3 Posted at 2012-08-12 02:22        
     
Cool, I'll check it out when I get home thank you.

What would be the benefit of having them combined?? Just being able to access all the missions from 1 game? Also, if they are combined, should I launch OA or A2 to play the game?

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#4 Posted at 2012-08-12 02:23        
     
Yup, sounds like you're good. Make sure to get the latest patch from arma2.com to bring yourself up to 1.62. Then add on the ACR Lite DLC unless you're a wise person and are buying it instead. :) All the other DLC is included in low rez texture format without the scenarios via patches.

Just make sure you're running the game as OA and it'll load ArmA2 as a "mod" for you so you'll have content from both.


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#5 Posted at 2012-08-12 02:31        
     
# Pirin : Yup, sounds like you're good. Make sure to get the latest patch from arma2.com to bring yourself up to 1.62. Then add on the ACR Lite DLC unless you're a wise person and are buying it instead. :) All the other DLC is included in low rez texture format without the scenarios via patches.
Exactly, and notice that you also get, by installing the patches, British Armed Forces Lite (BAF) and Private Military Company Lite (PMC) which are the other DLCs also available to buy if you want them with high res textures.

The benefits... well, this is something personal I think. For me, it's the benefit of having all types of units and vehicles and objects and everything of both games available in the editor. Also there is the camera shaking when you shoot, which better simulates the recoil of the weapon. This is introduced with Arrowhead and it's good to have it also with ArmA II standalone units and weapons. There are as well other things. Play the game and discover them.


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#6 Posted at 2012-08-12 03:09        
     
So all the other addons are available via download in the free versions?? Minus hd graphics and single player?

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#7 Posted at 2012-08-12 03:32        
     
Yup, that way if you "have arma" you can play with anyone else that has it, regardless of what DLC might be used in a mission.

As DeltaForce said, BAF and PMC are part of the 1.60 patch and ACR is a stand alone install since it requires both A2 and OA for some reason. :P


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#8 Posted at 2012-08-12 03:55        
     
ok.. home now and had a chance to check if they're combined. when i go into editor and act like im going to add a unit, i have a list of groups under factions which include both usmc and us. i also located the expansions folder under the arma directory so it looks like im good to go there.

just to make sure i understand, i want to open the game through the OA .exe to play it even if im playing A2? would i go into "expansions" and load A2 that way? how do i get the A2 missions through OA?

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#9 Posted at 2012-08-12 04:57        
     
The arma2 missions will automatically be ingame for you. Since your on combined your running both games, all you have to do is start it with Arma2oa.exe. Like has been stated previously, the arma2 campaign is called harvest red, and the OA one I can't really remember what it's called. But you will only have a limited selection to choose from, ssince your not using any mods. So it shouldn't be difficult to figure out. Anything using the USMC is arma2, anything using the U.S. Army is oa.
Think of it as one big game, not arma2 or arma2 operation arrowhead. Cause that's what it really is, just one big sandbox game, like a lego set with infinite possibility's. Anything you can imagine, in a military setting arma can do it.(even outside of a military setting)
Welcome to the best pc gaming experience available, and one of the best gaming communitys you'll ever witness. One last tid bit to add, the game is soo much better with mods, I wouldn't play stock arma. Personal opinion of course, but one day you will look back and feel the same way lol.

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#10 Posted at 2012-08-12 04:57        
     
Sounds perfect! All the ArmA2 content will be available in the same place, so you'll see under SinglePlayer -> Scenarios both 01: Trial by Fire and E01: Hike in the Hills. If you have both then you're all set! Under Campaign you should have Harvest Red (ArmA2) and Operations Arrowhead (OA).

You run OA as "the game" since it's an upgraded Engine with better features. It loads all the ArmA2 content as you found in the editor.


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#11 Posted at 2012-08-12 07:39        
     
wow, i already notice a difference just after redoing all the training (still stuck on helicopter basics). thank you guys for all the help. im sure ill be inquiring more as i get into the game a little bit. im assuming i should stick with the campaign before the scenarios?

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#12 Posted at 2012-08-12 13:45        
     
Well, Campaign or Scenarios that's not much difference. At least play the training first, then you're free to choose.
When you're going to play campaigns I recommend you Harvest Red first, it is awesome, I felt like being really in the situation. Some great ambience in my opinion.

Also, Isp said that the game looks much better with mods. That's right. But since you're new, IMO it's better to understand what are the game limits and details before getting into adding new features.
Now, after this, good play! ;-)


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#13 Posted at 2012-08-15 09:29        
     
Thanks for all the help!!

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