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#91 Posted at 2009-06-22 18:55        
     
Well well.. Dasquade certainly wasnt kidding about performance.
My copy got here in the mail today so i installed it and the 1.02 patch too.
Auto configuration set details to normal, res to native 1680*1050 and fill rate to something lower, it looked very ugly and blurry so i disabled post processing and increased fill rate to 1650*1050 too, then it looked sharper but not as much as Arma.

But its a stuttery slide show, i've tried to increase and decrease settings betwean normal and high and it always runs and looks bad. The specs are:
E6600, 4 GB DDRII, 8800 GTX, audigy 2 and Vista 32 sp2.

This computer is old, i got it when Arma came out and it ran Arma at all high settings, 1680*1050 and 4X antialiasing, very sharp, very pretty and with very good frame rates.
Arma II runs bad no matter what, i tested with a single unit in the editor alone, what i dont understand is that the graphics dont really look better than Armed Assault, even if i bump them all to high it looks.. worse :dontgetit ?


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#92 Posted at 2009-06-22 19:12        
     
@ Heatseeker

It shouldn't be that bad.

I have shadow detail on high and post process on low, the rest on normal.
The campaign runs well with those settings, all on high makes it lag a lot in bigger missions.
High settings doesn't change it much from normal :)

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#93 Posted at 2009-06-22 22:33        
     
I know very little about computers so any help would be much appreciated.
I have a dellxps710 running xp
Gtx8800 756mb
4g ram
Intel quad core 2.4ghz
Creative x-fi
Arma2 runs ok but it can get a little laggy in single player even with normal settings.
Updated everything with lastest drivers & done all the cleans suggested by others.
Is it time for a new card? If so what would you recommend . Will I go sli with the 8800gtx?
Again thanks for the help & any suggestions to make it run smoother.
Oh !running on 1680 x 1050.


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#94 Posted at 2009-06-22 23:03        
     
laggy : @ Heatseeker

It shouldn't be that bad.

I have shadow detail on high and post process on low, the rest on normal.
The campaign runs well with those settings, all on high makes it lag a lot in bigger missions.
High settings doesn't change it much from normal :)

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I tried lots of combinations, the best performance i got so far was actually with high textures and shadows but post processing disabled. It doesnt make much sense.. i had it running worse with everything on low or normal..
I think Arma II still has a long way to go, Chernarus is nice though :) .


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#95 Posted at 2009-06-24 11:28        
     
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Mid-range AMD quad core
HD 4870 cross-fired with a stupid HD4850 - I'm upgrading soon
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Just thought I'd leave a message here in the hopes it might help someone, after spending hour after hour trying to get rid of a game-killing stutter.

After being unhappy with ArmA2's performance for ages, I finally did a clean install of Windows 7, and everything ran really smoothly for a while, and then started stuttering again. I don't claim to have any perfect fixes, but I've now got it running silky smooth again. It doesn't look great when the image is still, but most of the time I'm scanning and moving, so that doesn't matter to me. I've now got it running fast enough that I finally like the blur effect (not so much the HDR).

-Key tinker #1 = I'd messed with my .cfg file so much that everything had become confused. I wiped it and let ArmA2 create a new one.
-#2 = For ATI cards, crossfire works 'out of the box' for me under a 64 bit system without -winxp tweak.
-#3 = For ATI cards (at least mid-range ones), I'd recommend not only turning CCC AI off, but tweaking further in 'all settings'. Make sure you force VSynch off. Set Mipmapping to the second to lowest setting (the lowest causes glitches with 2d textures in the game). It helped me to force low on-card AA.

After fiddling like this, I finally found that lowering graphical settings using the in-game menus worked and made real FPS gains (previously, I'd lower settings and it would play worse). I found that lowering shadows and object detail actually made little difference to how good the game looked (I suppose because characters are now made up of lots of polygons).

After this, I found I got great FPS at all times, without stutter, and could control settings in game by simply changing the view distance (you don't need more than 2000 in Electrozavodsk IMHO, but in the countryside you can get up to 4000 after this tinkering, without a great quad-core).

Apart from this, lots of people are saying that XP x64 is the best system to play the game on. Some claim up to a 40% increase in performance for high-end CPUs. I'm happy now, though, and done messing about.

It's well worth persevering to get a good frame-rate: - you suddenly realize that the game's difficulty level is set just right, and not ridiculously hard. You actually have a second to react before that bullet 'perforates your head-gear'.

-Hopefully this will help people to play the game properly without having to upgrade mobo and CPU.

Happy tinkering!


P.S. I previously thought that disabling (through device drivers) two HD audio drivers that catalyst control centre had installed helped prevent some of the stuttering. I have no idea whether this was my imagination or not, but it can't hurt to disable them.


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#96 Posted at 2009-06-24 17:04        
     
Hmm.. i got i found Arma II's G spot, one thing that i believe helped was to run in XP compatbility mode, i remember Vista users complained all the time about performance in Arma 1.

These are my settings:

View distance: 1600.
Texture detail: normal (doesnt make a big diference in visuals but totally kills performance).
Video memory: High.
Anisotropic filtering: High (not a demanding setting).
AA: off (doesnt work yet).
Terrain detail: normal
Objects: normal
Shadows: OFF (i hate to do this but..)
PP: Disabled (i dont like blurry graphics, post processing is a console thing).
Resolution: 1680*1050, same as monitors native one.
3d resolution: 2100*1310 (125%). This is what makes the game look pretty and sharp again, its worth sacrificing other settings for 125% or higher.

Restarted the game after making these changes, much better now!


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#97 Posted at 2009-06-25 00:22        
     
Glad to finally see you somewhat content Heatseeker. This game's performance really took us all by surprise :hammer but the playability and quality redeems it all :thumb

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#98 Posted at 2009-06-28 10:22        
     
Thanks Destinyone , Not what i wanted to hear but if thats the problem i need to sort it.
Would it be best to overclock? & if i do will i fry my system.
Or would it be easier to get a new cpu ?


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#99 Posted at 2009-07-01 14:19        
     
amd athelon 64bit 5500 dual core -exceeds recommended specs
gforce 8800GTX/768ram -meets recommended specs
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arma 2 runs like crap. everything on low or off, have to use the nvidia controller to tweak other gpu features to increase performance enough to make it playable.. view distance set to like 2500, and as mentioned , everything on low or off... so if im running recommended specs and its running that bad then they seriously need to update their specs..


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#100 Posted at 2009-07-01 14:55        
     
What drivers are you using?
I think I read with Vista the 186.xx drivers work "the best".


Arma2 + vista for now seems not to be the best system atm.
Where are you testing your performance? MP or with SP? Did you disable Vsync in the nvidia controlplanel?
Go step by step, increase a setting and see what impact it has on your frames. Than try the next.......and so on.

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#101 Posted at 2009-07-03 19:21        
     
I have ordered a 260gtx to replace my current 8800GS. It will be arriving tomorrow and I can test it in my PC on monday. I will let you guys know the difference.

Still running AMD5200 X2, which is over 2 years old. So here is my plan:

- New motherboard, +1 months
- New processor, +1 months. AM3+ 3.2ghz quad or more
- New case and junk, +2 months
- Second 260gtx, +2 months

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#102 Posted at 2009-07-03 19:54        
     
I thought you were planning on getting a GTX 280...?

And why not get an i7, I know AM3 and i7 are similar, but Intel always seems to be better, and ALL Intel motherboards are by far better.

Anyways, I hope it runs good, but i still think you'll have trouble running at 1920X1200. My 4870X2 only gets around 30 FPS or a bit higher.

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#103 Posted at 2009-07-03 20:13        
     
I simply can't afford an i7, and I am an AMD fanboy. Secondly, I'm not sure where you get the information about intel motherboards being better?

As I said, I'm getting another gtx260 in the future for SLi, which is about the equivalent of the gtx295.


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#104 Posted at 2009-07-03 21:57        
     
Alright. But this is my opinion, save up your money until you have enough for the Mobo, second GPU, CPU and case and then do it all at the same time. Because its just easier. Because you say your getting a new CPU and Mobo within one month then a new case in 2 months, it'll just be a pain, putting the new stuff in your current case, then a month later having to risk taking it out and moving it into a new case. Thats why im waiting to buy a new case, ill buy one once i do a major upgrade.

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#105 Posted at 2009-07-04 09:05        
     
Enad : Alright. But this is my opinion, save up your money until you have enough for the Mobo, second GPU, CPU and case and then do it all at the same time.

No, I can't save money. I need to spend it when I get it, otherwise I'll be spending it on other things like shopping and at the pub. Then before you know it I'll have nothing again. Besides, I would like to play ArmAII with better settings ASP, not in like 5 months when I finally have about £1500 to get a PC I want. My motherboard is fine, I have no 'reason' to upgrade it, just that I would like a better one. I take my PC to pieces all the time, I assure you I'm fully aware of what I'm doing, moving it from one case to the other is no problem at all. Infact I'm thinking a lot about building my own case.