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#1 Posted at 2008-05-15 03:00        
     
one of the most stupid mission ever created for arma of course..

you can only find unskilled players who love to nerd around bagango.

usually you need alwais an admin or cops and civs will start to flame for nothing..
when you are a cop you must be carefull to everything you do cuz some civ will easy start to whine and , most of the times, you will be kicked.

if you are a civ you have just to pray for an admin or you will be litterally raped by cops.

but anyay where is the fun to play a kind of mission like that?
the basical idea is not bad.. but it should be improved so much with more option and scripts to make the game funny and more balanced.


i think one of the most controversial aspect of arma it's the freedom to do/ create everything..
cuz the map-makers and the script-makers will not focalize their energy in the right way.. they will lost their time ( i know they are free to do that..).

stargate portal, different colors of the menu,aliens and UFO, sahrani life... all this kind of addons/ maps are a limit for arma not a good things.. why? cuz they will disperse the comunity...

other game of success dont give you so easily the oppurtunity to create every stupid kind of mission/addon..
so people will play as a game as thinked to be played..
arma it's the most realistic fps at the moment...do you think realism and sahrani life or aliens can stay togheter? with all those bull**** we had wasted the potential of arma.

it's much better for the comunity that you are only able to find berzerk ,AAS, ctf ( not so much small and without vehicles) evo or any kind of PROPER mission for a realistic fps.

anyway( fortunatly) you cannot find a lot of sahrani nerd life server( not more then 2 server usually..NOW) people really dont love to waste this game with that mission.

do you love rpg missions? do you love to be a badass? you hate cops and you love shoot their asses?
ever heard about GTA4? buy it ;)

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#2 Posted at 2008-05-15 04:50        
     
Hi and :welcome to armaholic killer.

U have a valid point there, but please u could have said much better. No need to say stupid, bullshit, nerd, ...

They are updating the mission all the time, why don't u contact them and tell them how to improve it?

And one thing: If people play those kind of missions or create those addons, it's cause they like to do it and there is no way that u can think that if they weren't doing it they would be playing or creating what "you" like.

You are making here the same analogy that music industry does: A downloaded CD is a CD that i don't sell so I'm loosing x


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#3 Posted at 2008-05-15 06:21        
     
Big : Hi and :welcome to armaholic killer.

thx :eek :eek


Big : U have a valid point there, but please u could have said much better. No need to say stupid, bullshit, nerd, ...

i know sorry but it was right my intention to said stupid and not only " i dont like that mission" cuz it's stupid for real and that is the reason cuz i hate it, well next time i will find a synonymous for
bullshit.
nerd should not being considered an offence...

Big : They are updating the mission all the time, why don't u contact them and tell them how to improve it?

i will will

Big : And one thing: If people play those kind of missions or create those addons, it's cause they like to do it and there is no way that u can think that if they weren't doing it they would be playing or creating what "you" like.


mmm dude, of course they do all those trash addons/missions cuz they like do it( sure lol) but in fact i think they have bought this game( most of the people) to play in credible battlefields, just after they have realized the oppurtunity that arma gives and they starts working in no-future addons, or you think that most of the addon-maker have bought this game just to start working on their addons? maybe but not most of him probably.
so if they were not free to do any kind of addon they simply will contiues to play the best game-mode or they will leaving the game.
who usually play sahrani life or he has bought the wrong game or he cant find a good game-mode that exalts this game ( in the second case i can understand in the first i will suggest to change game simply)

but the problem is the BIS: they gave to people the oppurtunity to create whatever they want.. but they dont have created good ,credible and proper game-mode for the mp.

you know what i mean: you should to take a look to PR(project reality) a mod for bf2 they had created very goods game-modes for that game( game-modes that can be used with alot of success in arma),
if we will have the opportunity to play 1 of that sophisticated and nice game-mode in arma noone will wast his time in the same old blu evo or in sahrani gay-pride( sorry my intention was to write sahrani -life) :D . also the berzerk are not perfect (they are far to be..) cuz they dont have adopted some solutions to improve the teamplay, the cooperation and the interaction beetwen players, but they are much better and proper for arma then others existing game-modes.

Big : You are making here the same analogy that music industry does: A downloaded CD is a CD that i don't sell so I'm loosing x

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#4 Posted at 2008-05-15 07:22        
     
Killer, if you hate it dont play it. Your whole post has nothing to do with the topic. If you want to tell people what they should be doing instead start your own request topic, sit back, relax and wait till people do it for you.
Or..........buy a game which is not so open, where the devs made everything for you......and blow the hell out of the same thing, over and over and over and over and over again.


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#5 Posted at 2008-05-15 07:25        
     
Well, then why don't u create/port those great gamemodes?

U again try to guess what people does and why they do it. I see ur point when u say that they play/create those missions/addons cause there is no other thing, maybe or maybe not, cause maybe it's what they like. You can have the greatest TvT that u will never see me playing there. So that's what i mean, not all people like what u like and i see people leaving the game before than playing something they don't like.

I can only tell u from my POV which it's in the coop side of these kind of games. U won't find teamwork in any public server, there is no way. I can't find good teamwork in a game where u have more than 1 life either. Should they stop playing Evo and others or making missions like those?, of course not, people playing those it's cause they don't like what i like to play, that simple. With only one person not following/cooperating in the mission u ruin a good MP session for the rest.

I think u can say the same about TvT servers (any game u like), join a server with 20-30 players and try to play with teamwork. Now if u make it come here and tell it to me. U have people from all the world, mainly English is used to talk and not everybody can, most of the people just have some spare time and want to have fun on their own (join, shoot some, kill/die, ..., exit), most of them don't wanna join any comms server (if u force them they will join other server) and i could going on and on.

Now after these comments i have to tell u that if u try to be funny with some of ur sentences u are not, if u can't type with respect then do it.


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#6 Posted at 2008-05-15 09:06        
     
Foxhound : Killer, if you hate it dont play it. Your whole post has nothing to do with the topic. If you want to tell people what they should be doing instead start your own request topic, sit back, relax and wait till people do it for you.
Or..........buy a game which is not so open, where the devs made everything for you......and blow the hell out of the same thing, over and over and over and over and over again.


Also the use of capital letters is not forbidden when posting.



Now, back to discussion the edited mission instead!!

you are completly wrong... let me tell you this is not a news for you: you are an unqualified admin.
"if you hate it dont play it"-" your whole post has nothing do do with the topic"... poor logic.
then you need an explanation: you dont have to tell me dont play it if you hate it cuz is obvious.
some people has partecipated at that topic just to post their positive impression, so in normal countries and with normal people you are also allowed to post negative impressions.
also saying " WOW this mission is awesome" or "i've pasted good times in that server" has nothing to do with the topic foxhound.
your sarcasm is immotivated and, like your post, it's without any sense.
it's better to play the old good thing over and over then playing something new made by nooobs with strange ideas ( personally).

p.s. (post scriptum)

it's ridicole to note when someone dont like you he starts to criticize for any kind of insignificant mistake.
i know that the use of capital letters is not forbidden.
i never use capital letters to post in forums.
is not forbidden also the correct use of your admin privileges.
and most important is not forbidden also the use of your brain before pressing "REPLY", you should know that.


last thing: you have removed 1 of mine comments concerning an afghanistan map.
i've simply said:"wow finally we can bomb some mosque", cuz some of the screens concerning the island has showed a mosque.
you have send me a PM to tell me that racist comments are not allowed.
im not racist i dont find nothing of wrong in muslims/ mosques.
and anyway there is nothing of racist in that post if you know properly what racism is standing for..(ignorance?)
i was just excited to bomb with a plane a new kind of building.
this example and what you have said before it shows good what kind of admin you are: simply unqualified nothing else.

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#7 Posted at 2008-05-15 09:28        
     
Big : Well, then why don't u create/port those great gamemodes?

U again try to guess what people does and why they do it. I see ur point when u say that they play/create those missions/addons cause there is no other thing, maybe or maybe not, cause maybe it's what they like. You can have the greatest TvT that u will never see me playing there. So that's what i mean, not all people like what u like and i see people leaving the game before than playing something they don't like.

I can only tell u from my POV which it's in the coop side of these kind of games. U won't find teamwork in any public server, there is no way. I can't find good teamwork in a game where u have more than 1 life either. Should they stop playing Evo and others or making missions like those?, of course not, people playing those it's cause they don't like what i like to play, that simple. With only one person not following/cooperating in the mission u ruin a good MP session for the rest.

I think u can say the same about TvT servers (any game u like), join a server with 20-30 players and try to play with teamwork. Now if u make it come here and tell it to me. U have people from all the world, mainly English is used to talk and not everybody can, most of the people just have some spare time and want to have fun on their own (join, shoot some, kill/die, ..., exit), most of them don't wanna join any comms server (if u force them they will join other server) and i could going on and on.

Now after these comments i have to tell u that if u try to be funny with some of ur sentences u are not, if u can't type with respect then do it.






im doing that with my clan..
and 1 more time i dont agree with you... in project reality for example you are forced to being a teamplayers.. cuz you will have some concrete advantage if you do that. and you cant operate some option if you dont move near you SL ecc..


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I can't find good teamwork in a game where u have more than 1 life either.

mmmmmm is only a question of what kind of solution you have adopted to improve the gameplay.
dude seriusly check project reality and their game-modes. you will see squads of 6 players moving in team ,working in team... and spawning how many time they want( with a malus of time-spawn for every next spawn).



no im not trying to be funny was not my intention (is never my intention..),
should i have to tell you i dont have nothing against you? since foxhound has joined this thread the clima is changed here...

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#8 Posted at 2008-05-15 10:49        
     
Do u think we have anything against u? :lol

I don't check BF2 mods cause i don't check BF2 game :D

What i meant it's that u can force people to play using teamwork as much as u want but that won't happen on public servers. I just played once some TvT (i think was berzerker map) in ArmA and it was a mess. There is no organization nor can be in any public server. It doesn't matter the gametype/gamemode u play.

U need everybody on comms, u need to separate people into different channels depending on the team side, u have to prepare a tactic before the game starts, ... and that simply is impossible. Nobody will wait 20 minutes before playing just to do this.

U talk about just 6 men team, as u can see u need an small team to do that and probably those 6 are from the same clan or group so they work together in comms, now try to find 20 to do that. Even if they were from the same clan, to organize 20 persons you would need so much time before the game starts that it will be boring for most of people. As i said most of people just want to have fun for some time playing online.

For example u can't say coop is a no-teamwork gamemode, now join any server and tell me where is the teamwork. There is none, u can't on any public server. U see my point?, it doesn't matter the game, gameplay nor gamemode it's just who u play with.

Take those 6 people u talk about on BF2 game and make them play another game, they will just keep playing together and using teamwork. Now do the other way around, we take 6 guys from any game and we place them on same team, any game u place them they will act the same and this means no teamwork from them.

It's like the same discussion about this or that game not being tactical, i always say that it depends on the people u play with not in the game.

So summing it all up, the people is what matters.

About u "having rights" to say what u want, we will leave it here. We have rules that u agreed with since u joined this site/forums, u can say what u want with respect and there is where u fail.

Your mosque comment was reported to us so we acted as we thought it was best and that means we deleted it. It was offensive for some people, it didn't add anything to the game nor the site so we deleted it.


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#9 Posted at 2008-05-15 12:12        
     
Killer, use some caps now and than and stop making comments against anything and anyone, maybe than I will actually read what you post. Until than I answer anyway I feel only by seeing what you typed.


Topic locked since I doubt there will even be any usefull discussion comming from your comments.
Only thing you seem to be trying is to comment about what we are doing on our website.......I wish you good hunting....

Bye bye.


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Its forbidden to double post in our forums!

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